| CD Baby DIY Musician Podcast |
 Dec. 14,
2008
Ep.41 : What's Your Story?
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| All Music Guide/Gracenote |
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Does CDBaby submit music information to All Music Guide
and/or Gracenote? I know that Discmakers offered the service
and now that tony is head of cdbaby will these services be
available for cdbaby customers?
I think it should be added as an additional service like the
barcodes which we pay extra for. I also would love to see some
of our art work and titles autopopulate when our cd is played
with windows media player.
feedback welcome.
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That's a cool idea. I'd be willing to pay a reasonable fee for that added service.
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We haven't added this service. The reason we do it at Disc Makers is because we have your discs before they're released, and can offer a valuable service by providing this content to Gracenote and AMG early - before most of your fans get their hands on your CD and drop it into their PC. That way, even most of the early buyers of your CD get to pull down your track and album info automatically.
The difference with CD Baby is that by the time we get your CD, weeks have usually passed since you started to sell them. And so either you or one of your fans has likely uploaded your metadata already, which reduces the need for us to add such a service.
However, I'm open to doing it. What would you be willing to pay - if anything - for us doing this work (which, BTW, would include mailing a CD to AMG, who doesn't accept info electronically, believe it or not).
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I am willing to pay nothing; i.e., I will do it by myself if I need to.
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I think this is a waste of CD Baby's time. We can all do this for ourselves. Here's how:
Take this link for info on product submissions to All Music Guide. I've sent my stuff, takes a while, but they'll add your tracks and the main credits.
http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=32:amg/info_pages/a_product_submissions.html
For Gracenote, just load your CD into a computer, enter all the metadata, and submit the track names to CDDB (the option is a little different on PCs and Macs and for various media players, but it's under the Advanced menu in iTunes for Macs).
Why wouldn't artists do this with a copy of their master before they send it to Discmakers? Even record labels enter this info themselves because they want to be responsible for the correct info showing up. Both steps feel kind of good anyway, like a little ritual that says, "My album is done!"
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on Friday October 24 2008 @ 06:31AM PDT [ reply | parent ] |
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Actually if CD Baby submitted content to AMG, it might get
added to their database correctly!
An indie artist doesn't have any clout to get AMG to fix errors,
and every time I've sent them something they have left off band
members, garbled the credits, got the titles wrong, mistyped the
catalogue numbers, and numerous other things--including
leaving off the cover art entirely!
They do not EVER respond to emails or fix any mistakes you
submit. And they seem incapable of typing information that is
printed on the CD sleeve right in front of them, so what you end
up with is your release listed incorrectly across all the sites AMG
serves content to.
Submitting to Gracenote is easy and can be done by an
individual, but I think that AMG is more difficult and would love
CD Baby to intervene on my behalf with them.
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I agree with the previous comment. The last time we submitted the information - which was all correct - to AMG, they butchered the entry and put in some extra wrong information such as linking our band to other musicians with weird nicknames.
We have since then been completely unable to get them to fix or otherwise address the errors, despite numerous civil submissions over the last few months for correction.
I'd be willing to pay at least $5 for the initial service, probably more if CD Baby promised to make sure AMG got it right.
- William
http://cdbaby.com/cd/nocompromisemusic2
http://nocorock.com/
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| by G
on Tuesday November 18 2008 @ 06:35PM PST [ reply | parent ] |
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I have heard of people who have been mailing AMG for 5+ years,
requesting corrections to credits, and never once even receiving a
response. To be fair, it's a free website, but you'd think they'd get
to it within 5 years.
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I would be more then willing to pay extra for this service. I have submitted info to AMG before and watch helplessly as it gets tore up and all my responses to correct it is mute. So i would love a little help.
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As an Indie/self-published musician in the UK, how does being added to AMG or Gracenote benefit?
Thanks, learning all the time here :o)
Andrew
www.myspace.com/andrewturnermusic
(CD coming soon to a cdbaby near you!)
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on Wednesday November 05 2008 @ 07:16AM PST [ reply | parent ] |
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Andrew,
Gracenote is used by iTunes and other music player software.
You can submit your release to Gracenote yourself using
iTunes--just pop it in your CD drive, enter all the track info, and
submit. The benefit is when a person puts your CD in their
computer it retrieves all the artist and track information for your
release and loads it into iTunes automatically, and names all the
tracks when they import it.
AMG is a content provider that loads of internet sites that serve
music content use, so it's really good to get your cover art and
details in their database. Many, many sites use their data.
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I would love to see CD Baby offer this service. As everyone else says, submitting manually is slow and error prone.
I would pay $10 for this.
Monty
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How about cover art?
In Gracenote's FAQ: "All Album Cover Art images delivered by Gracenote are provided by licensed content partners, including industry leaders like Muze®. Gracenote does not take Album Cover Art submissions from end users at this time."
I believe Pandora uses Amazon.com for its artwork, and Gracenote says: "If you are trying to submit Album Cover Art to iTunes, you will need to work directly with Apple."
Ugh... 100 different places to submit, and many (all?) of them don't deal with independents.
Any clarity/assistance that CD Baby can provide in its services would be awesome.
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| by G
on Tuesday November 18 2008 @ 06:23PM PST [ reply | parent ] |
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I think CDBaby sends your cover art to Apple when they upload
your album. So, it's already done.
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huh, I uploaded my band's new CD info to gracenote via my winamp player, but after three weeks it fails to show up in a Gracenote search.
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My Cds are there, but nothing more.
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