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| posted by Gman on Wednesday February 13 2008 @ 04:58AM PST |
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Hi, I am wondering what is the maximum digital distribution outlets has anyone received by using CDBABY.COM. Don't get me wrong, I love cdbaby, but it seems that they haven't delivered my album to many of the places that they said they would.
Has anyone else experienced this in the past and how long did it take them to get your album to all of the digital distributors? They have delivered it to 16 companies so far and i am happy about that. My album have been out since November, but emusic, amazon.com MP and several others haven't received it yet.
Thanks for your feedback.
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Hey Gman-
How many outlets we send your music to depends upon how you've customized your CD Baby digital distribution options.
Its based on several factors.
Firstly, you can select your "percentage" of distribution. Here is how that breaks down:
0% No distribution.
Nothing. We won't send it anywhere unless you specifically tell us to.
25% Only sales. No streams.
Only places that pay over 60 cents per track. (Download/kiosk/etc.) No streams. No ringtones, P2P, Rhapsody, or anything else.
50% Only traditional.
Only the mainstream business models: selling downloads, streaming subscription, ringtones, kiosks, etc. If a new company comes along with a very different business model, you will NOT be included.
75% Everything that pays.
As long as it pays, you'll take it. There are always new forms of music income and you'll be there for all of them.
100% Do it all. Even un-paid.
You'll take everything that pays AND you want us to send it to places like digital radio that get you extra exposure, even if it doesn't pay.
Secondly, you can also use a feature called "restrictions" to further limit your digital distribution to specific companies or geographic regions according to your own specifications.
Thirdly, some of our partner companies are picky about what content they take from us. Some want just Hip Hop. Some want everything but Hip Hop. Some want just newer stuff. etc. etc.
Lastly, we always try to get your music out the door as quick as we can. But unfortunately, some of the companies we work with are so flooded with music that it takes them a while to process and post new albums for sale on their sites.
This whole process generally takes about 1-4 months, but eventually we will send your music to every single company we can that falls within your chosen distribution criteria.
If you ever have any questions or concerns about your digital distribution with CD Baby(or anything else, for that matter) just write us at cdbaby@cdbaby.com and we'll be happy to help!
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Yes, many stores like emusic, msn, yahoo do not still have my music after many months, but sincerely I think that if your music is on Itunes it is already OK.
Then if your album is also on Rhapsody, Napster and emusic it is still better.
Itunes sells the 95% of the music on the web, so I believe that if my music is just there I am happy.
In this marketing is important the quality of the store and not the quantity.
IMHO
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Yes. Paolo makes a good point.
Its great to have your music available on bazillions of small, lesser known download sites.
BUT, the truth is that iTunes is responsible for an overwhelming majority of digital download sales.
Plus, most people are going to feel more comfortable giving their credit card number to a name they trust... iTunes, Rhapsody, Napster, eMusic, etc.
So as long as your music is available on iTunes you're probably (can't speak for all artists and all music fans, of course) not missing out on too many sales.
There are some artists who spend alot of nervous, worried, and angry energy on the fact that their music isn't yet available on BooBooTunes or CelerystickHits.com (these are not real sites, by the way) rather than figuring out how to direct their fans and friends to the sites where the music IS available. That is the real trick!
Of course, CD Baby wants to get your music delivered everywhere we possibly can, and we're always on the lookout for new companies and outlets who want to work with indie music. You never know which one will become the NEXT iTunes. But until then, a little less panic and a little more promotion will do a body good.
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Some of the sites that CD Baby sent our music to never made it available. The reasons for this...who knows. But we know for a fact that it did not have anything to do with CD Baby not sending the music out in the first place. And thanks to CD Baby, our music is available on most of the sites that we would prefer to have it on anyway. Best regards.
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Are CDBaby going to be involved in sending digital content to the new play.com download service? I think they are selling cheaper on there so how does that work out (who takes the loss on profit play, the middle man or the artist) in these cases?
Slightly off topic but still kind of relevent. :)
thanks
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We're not currently partnered with Play.com, though we're always checking out new companies that spring up to see if it'd benefit indie artists. Looks like they're targeted towards the UK market, and from what I could gather (just glancing at the site) their prices seemed fair. 7.95 pounds for a full album download.
But to answer your question about who takes the loss, we always always always go through long negotiations before signing any contracts to make sure we can get the absolute most money for our artists per sale. After all, we're only getting 9% of the amount those download sites pay to us AFTER they take their cut. More for you means more for us.
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Thanks for the reply Chris.
Yes i'm in the UK which is probably why I noted the play.com thing as being interesting.
rgds
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I've got many titles up on CDBaby - most have been delivered to between 48 and 52 download sites. But one has stagnated at 24! Did CDBaby simply give up on it? Did it slip through the cracks? They're all signed up for the same level of distribution...
(I was actually thinking about this before this thread was posted - and I know the best course of action is to write to CDBaby and mention what I've observed. I'm sure they'll correct it - they're always so good at making things right. :) )
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Feel free to write cdbaby@cdbaby.com and give us your album/artist name. We can look into it for you.
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Chris-
like I said... best course of action is to write your lovely selves. Will do. :)
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I also signed up November 2007 and have been sent to 16 companies. I was told
"The companies that have already received deliveries represent companies that are actively ingesting content. ...it's been hard on many of the smaller companies to stay afloat, much less ingest the massive amount of content coming from us and other providers with any efficiency. ...are actively working with our partners to get them up to speed but until there is more potential for them to succeed, the list of active partners we deliver to will fluctuate accordingly."
I've got the important ones AFAIK, and some I'm having trouble figuring out their best use.
I suspect growing pains are preventing timely updates of the web site? Or the list is fluctuating so fast updates are impractical?
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Anyone had any sales from amazon yet ??? They've added two of my albums now - all have been sent to them, takes a while so patience seems to be the key ??? and amazon have a link to 'buy the cd' on their site as well... Does this mean that all our albums will end up on their cd section one day..?
anyway great stuff !!!
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Hello there, my first cd Drive is on 65 websites, which is great, very cool. You really do have to be patient, it takes cd baby time to encode your music to the different formats these companies want,wma,wav,mp3,etc. and not every company is interested. So with time, your music will be on them as well. Just sit back and relax and let CD Baby do it's thing.
John Janes
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I realized that the lat two albums I signed up for digital distribution - 1* Oct. 4th 2006 and 2* Nov. 15th 2007 are not available via eMusic.
which is a pity.
I think it is important to be not inly available at Itunes - also they make most of the income - but streaming and subsciption services liek eMusic, Rhapsody, etc. will be the future.
thanks for the interesting thread.
Wolfgang
http://cdbaby.com/group/base
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If your album's distribution level is set to 75% or above, just write cdbaby@cdbaby.com and let us know you'd like to be delivered to eMusic. We'll take it from there!
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Is it possible to get a more granular list of options for digital distribution? Maybe a list of checkboxes for different distributors that are checked by default, but we can uncheck if we do not want to be included.
By the way, shouldn't eMusic be in the 50% tier, since it is subscription-based? The amount paid per track is not really relevant since it fluctuates based on your share of downloads.
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eMusic IS subscription based, but its subscription downloads (as opposed to the subscription streaming covered under our 50% distribution level).
As for the list of options you're looking for, you can see that by clicking on the "restrictions" link in your cdbaby.net member account's HOW MUCH DISTRIBUTION section. Its a bit hidden, I'll admit, in the bottom right hand corner of the page.
But that is where you can basically check yes or no to all the companies we work with.
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Yeah, I agree. I really think that having music on the eMusic website is very important. Streaming can add value to an album.
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I'm with 12 companies for digital. Went on sale between 27th Dec and 3rd Jan. CD's doing okay (mainly europe / japan) but haven't had any online sales report yet.
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All of the download sites report and pay on different schedules. But iTunes, for instance, reports sales 6 weeks after the end of the month in which the sale occurred. So if someone downloaded your song on January 1st, you'd find out about it in mid-March.
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My CD that got the most deliveries so far was delivered by CDbaby to 68 stores.
I would bet that iTunes, eMusic and Amazonmp3 will be the highest paying in the long term as they are the international ones (or I think Amazonmp3 will be international in the near future) I haven't received payments from Amazonmp3 yet through CDbaby because my CDs just went live on Amazonmp3 a few days ago.
These are the stores that have paid me anything starting from which have paid the most down to which have paid the least (or sold less, etc..).
company amount
Apple iTunes
iTunes-Europe
iTunes-UK
iTunes-Canada
Napster
Rhapsody
MusicNet
MP3tunes
MSN Music
MusicMatch
iTunes-Japan
iTunes-Australia
Verizon
Sony Connect
Nokia/OD2
Emusic
Ruckus
MusicNow - DEAD
BuyMusic
Liquid Digital Media
iTunes-NewZealand
Tradebit
PassAlong
GreatIndieMusic
PayPlay
Weed - DEAD
MPGreek
NTT
SNOCAP - DEAD
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wow, 68 stores. that's a lot! for how much digital distribution did you sign up? 100%?
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My only concern about digital distribution is the free software out
there available to download online that allows users to record ANY
streaming audio. So if a person gets to preview/listen to your whole
songs, they can record it. I've tried the software and the quality is
the same as original. How can we make sure that the other digital
download sites are only playing samples of our songs and not the
whole thing. I don't want my songs getting hijacked! Anybody got
any suggestions?
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When I was a kid, I used to tape songs off of the radio with my little tape recorder. When I grew older and had money, I started buying albums. I agree with Ronnie, don't sweat this small stuff. There will always be people who will go to great lengths to avoid paying. But as long as you make your music widely available and easy to buy, most people will buy it if they like it.
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I would not sweat it. Anyone "hijacking" your song was not going to buy it otherwise any way. So it's not really lost sales. And honestly, I don't think there is much you can do about it.
Besides, the benefit of being heard on streams (IMHO) far outweighs and preconceived loss to Pirates P-)
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I am still waiting for Liquid Digital Media to place my music on the site. I have been told by CD Baby to be patient. It has been delivered for almost 6 months now. It's easy to say that the content placed on these sites is up to the site. I am wondering does anyone actually follow up? I am really happy with CD Baby. I just wish the actual process was faster. The Standard 3 month wait has almost turned into 6 and I suppose that in 12 months It may be the same. My fans, most of them don't even own a computer. The small percentage that do would prefer to purchase music from Wal Mart.
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I noticed Amazon is not listed in the Partner Companies section, and our newer releases have not been submitted to them.
Is Amazon still working with CD Baby?
Just curious.
Keep up the good work Derek and crew!
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Hi,
Have there been any recent changes for mp3 downloads for cdbaby in regards to regional segmentation? All downloads listed now say "We're sorry, but MP3 downloads are not available in your region.". My domain is .no.
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I was wondering if CD Baby has any contact with the new MySpace music service that is in the news; and intends to deliver material to it?
MySpace and CD Baby have both been big supporters of indie music; it seems a match made in heaven.
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i just wanted to say i'm so impressed with how quickly my last two cd's were up on iTunes - amazing, thanks baby !!! (of all the outlets i've been delivered to - iTunes is the only one i've found that has the most sales by far)
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