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    Music Download Services Compared
    posted by Derek at CD Baby on Wednesday October 05 2005 @ 08:58AM PDT
    Digital Distribution A great overview of the top 9 download music services, here:

    http://reviews.designtechnica.com/print_guide33.html




    by on Thursday October 06 2005 @ 01:13PM PDT [ reply | parent ]
    Interesting. I wish that after a year, I'd be on more than two of them

    by Derek at CD Baby on Thursday October 06 2005 @ 02:51PM PDT [ reply | parent ]
    Please email customer service (cdbaby@cdbaby.com) so we can find out what is holding up your delivery. Anonymously venting on a bulletin board doesn't help get it delivered anywhere.

    by Literati X on Saturday October 08 2005 @ 05:02PM PDT [ reply | parent ]
    CD Baby is number A-1! If you follow them around long enough, eventually you'll get to the top and slap your damn self up side the head for not tending
    to your own independent business! Derek Sivers got the Literati catalogue as long as Graffito X got a sketch kit for any spoken word artist that want a neck slit real quick. . .

    by LiteratyXXX response on Monday October 10 2005 @ 07:50AM PDT [ reply | parent ]
    Q:CD Baby is number A-1! If you follow them around long enough, eventually you'll get to the top and slap your damn self up side the head for not tending ....

    R:So how come my album is not there yet plus other few hundreds of artists registered with Cd baby either???? (I registered my album last January)

    I been also shopping around , for example, the orchard which is the largest digital distributor and they have many placements for indie artists on the front sites of itunes and napster (http://theorchard.com/news/2005_09A.htm). Another company that does this in a very qualitative manner with a great global view is panartist that seems to have an awful lot of placements too on the main stores front sites.(http://www.panartist.com)

    So Do You think that CD baby is A-1 as you say now???
    I think you guys need to get your act together and do more researcxh before you give your opinion...

    by on Monday October 10 2005 @ 01:35PM PDT [ reply | parent ]
    Please email customer service (cdbaby@cdbaby.com) so we can find out what is holding up your delivery. Anonymously venting on a bulletin board doesn't help get it delivered anywhere...

    Well thats the point in a free country!!!
    I already emailed you several times, and action hasn't been taking, thats why, sio im making the case in public... Because however small the percentage of artists suffering from this, should let you know so You can improve your service!!!

    My stuff was delivered to itunes, Napster, Audio Lunchbox etc, then un-delivered, then redelivered a LONG time ago and i'm STILL not up & selling.

    Actually, that's the case on about 10 companies i've been delivered to. I've been delivered to 'em almost or over a year ago and STILL not up & selling. I've reported it but I haven't heard any word back from CDBABY or anyone.

    I'm just playing the waiting game.


    by Derek at CD Baby on Monday October 10 2005 @ 09:48PM PDT [ reply | parent ]
    > Anonymously venting on a bulletin board doesn't help get it delivered anywhere.

    >>> Well thats the point in a free country!

    I'm not trying to stop you from posting. I'm just suggesting that it doesn't help get your music sent anywhere. If you'd tell me the name of your album, I can try to find out why it has not been delivered. But if you don't, I can't.

    by JZ on Friday October 14 2005 @ 02:19PM PDT [ reply | parent ]
    I wrote to cdbaby saying that I too was concerned about only being available on two of the top nine after a year. Unfortunately, it seems that only AFTER one has been delivered AND AFTER waiting three months from the delivery are we to use the "report a problem" mechanism.
    So , if one has not yet been delivered,or has been undelivered, one would seem to be stumped.
    Patient yet concerned especially since music match suddenly became a non-option after having been "delivered" May 5.
    JZ

    by Literati X on Saturday October 15 2005 @ 07:52AM PDT [ reply | parent ]
    I've done the research for two years straight ,my concerned friend, it was a phase inside the digital music world that the flood-gates were wide open. The name of the game with these services was to get the numbers up and selling! Well the numbers are up. And the stakes are competitive and high. I can be blunt with you on two issues that has absolutely nothing to do with CD Baby not being an A-1 distributor:Either these services are only dealing with top-of-class artist in category or you are what they call too late to be too lucky to find a job every month out of the year. I'm assuming that you are an excellent artist; if you
    were not, you would know that nothing from nothing
    leaves nothing for a crapped-out wannabe with a
    zero-wholesale fan based dream! Straight from a nigger that talks too much--Black X [Psychotic-series-vocalist]. . .


    by Curtis Macdonald on Monday October 17 2005 @ 07:48AM PDT [ reply | parent ]
    Hi and glad that the DD is going well with all.
    One thing, since last Thursday, 10-20-05, iTunes reworked thier browser and allowed many new features. The only thing WRONG was that of my 5 CD's and about 60 songs are MISSING. has anyone else had this problem? Since CD baby is making coin off this can CD Baby ask Apple about this and get my tunes back up on the USA site?
    Thanks!

    Here is the iTunes URL for my stuff:
    http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewAlbum?playListId=57752352

    by jj on Monday October 17 2005 @ 10:29AM PDT [ reply | parent ]
    this seems to be a problem that's draggimng now from a while and affects Cd baby artists.
    What tells me that having 100,000 artists doe snot help at all to artists. Instead one company should concentrate in badges of perhaps, 1,000 rather than all these. I see very unlikely for anybody to make any cash except for Cd baby in this case...

    Itunes and other stores are not gonna upgrade into their system a pile of garbage otherwise garbage is coming uot of their systems ... apple has been marketinbg quality for the past 20 years...
    Now if you think that theyre gonna fill over a 100,000 indie artists into their systems!!

    You guys must be dreaming!!!

    I spoke to somebody in Cupertino that's close to the music store and mentioned to me that all this will end soon...

    ...because when you put garbage into the system..
    Garbage comes out of the system too!!!



    by Derek at CD Baby on Monday October 17 2005 @ 03:56PM PDT [ reply | parent ]
    Steve Jobs' exact words were, "We want to have every piece of music ever recorded up for sale in the iTunes Music Store. There is no reason not to. Even if it's not selling well, we want it."

    by jj on Monday October 17 2005 @ 07:26PM PDT [ reply | parent ]
    obviously Mr Jobs knows a great deal about business, Macs and how to make computers and gadgets trendy but does not know much about music.

    You should tell him then why so many of us-Cd baby artists are not then up and running in their system???

    best JJ

    by on Monday October 17 2005 @ 09:18PM PDT [ reply | parent ]
    Despite the reality,
    The Digital Distribution FAQ still says:

    "How long does it take for you to send it to all
    the companies?
    2-5 weeks, once you've given us ALL the info
    we need, and we've received your CD. We
    have to encode it into 17 different formats for
    40 different companies, so that's why it takes
    a while. Plus we have to verify all your
    songwriter and publisher info is correct before
    we send it out into the world."

    by jj on Tuesday October 18 2005 @ 12:07PM PDT [ reply | parent ]
    I understand Derek, I know your doin a great job but you can't possibly do every thing!!!
    and most of the time youre including the whole army of indies to acheive things when there are only a few that actually are lucky enough to do so!!
    either as youre sayin for encoding reasons or so.

    Again maybe focusing on few could be the achievements of many more to come!!!

    Quality for quantity !!

    maybe not a great biz model but a great way to promote great artists!!

    best jj

    by Derek at CD Baby on Tuesday October 18 2005 @ 01:31PM PDT [ reply | parent ]
    >> maybe not a great biz model but a great way to promote great artists

    Everyone thinks they're great, JJ. I'm not going to decide who's not.

    by on Tuesday October 18 2005 @ 07:56PM PDT [ reply | parent ]
    Bravo Derek at CdBaby!!!
    That's a great attitude. I also admire the above quote from Steve Jobs. The beauty of Digital is that there actually might be room for everything - even if its not selling well. There are people who love to listen to the most obscure stuff and why shouldn't they be able to , especially now that the technology exists. Chacun son gout. and why not? I can't wait till some of my more obscure tastes in music appear on iTunes. I wish that there were no international barriers to the various iTunes stores' repertoirs. Kudos for getting the CdBaby stuff on all the ones I've checked. That's more than many better known artists have achieved.
    JZ

    by PAUL on Saturday October 22 2005 @ 12:14PM PDT [ reply | parent ]
    FOR YOUR INFORMATION STEVE JOBS ALONG WITH THE MAJOR
    LABELS AND NAPSTER ARE SUING THEIR OWN ARTISTS/
    PUBLISHERS FOR COLLECING THE MONEIES THAT BELONG TO
    THEIR CREATORS

    The British Phonographic Industry (BPI) representing over 300
    record companies
    The Digital Service Providers (DSPs) AOL, Apple iTunes,
    MusicNet, Napster, RealNetworks, Sony Connect and Yahoo; and
    The Mobile Network Operators (MNOs) 02, Orange, T-Mobile
    and Vodaphone
    versus

    UK songwriters and composers

    The future royalty earnings of UK songwriters and composers -
    the creators of music – are under threat.

    The MCPS-PRS Alliance Joint Online Licence (JOL) is the subject
    of legal proceedings. The JOL has been referred to the UK
    Copyright Tribunal by the BPI and a consortium of Digital Service
    Providers (DSPs) and Mobile Network Operators (MNOs). The
    objection is to the rate at which the Alliance licenses its 44,000
    members’ works for use or sale online.

    Since 2002 music creators, via the MCPS-PRS Alliance, have
    facilitated the growth of the legal online music market by
    providing online services with an inclusive licence to operate a
    number of business models to suit their needs – downloading,
    streaming, webcasting - through the Joint Online Licence. To
    further help the growth of this market, the creators and music
    publishers have supported this licence being issued at 8% of
    gross revenues – discounted from the headline 12% rate.

    The BPI, DSPs and MNOs claim that 12% - and even the current
    8% - is an unreasonable portion for the creator from online
    music sales and would like to see the amount reduced. At 8%,
    the creators earn 5-6p from a 79p download. At 12%, they
    would earn 8-9p. In the physical world, creators earn about 8p a
    track from the sale of a CD. So 12% would only bring about
    parity between the online and physical worlds.


    MORAL: WHEN BIG COMPANIES HAVE TO MAKE PPROFITS THEY
    WILL NOT CARE ABOUT MUSIC AND LESS ABOUT WHO CREATES
    THE MUSIC..

    I THINK JJ MIGHT HAVE A POINT

    PAUL

    by J Bigga on Friday November 25 2005 @ 06:47PM PST [ reply | parent ]
    WOW YOU HAVE GOT TO CHECK OUT THIS RESPONSE FROM BABY!!!

    http://johnproductions.com/I_K/cdbaby_digital_downloads.mp3

    THOUGHTS?

    COMMENTS?

    by Derek at CD Baby on Friday November 25 2005 @ 10:09PM PST [ reply | parent ]
    That is not a response. That is you reading one of your posts, accusing us of stealing from our clients.

    by B Jigga on Saturday March 04 2006 @ 10:10AM PST [ reply | parent ]
    What I'm not clear on is how TradeBit is shady and e.g. MusicNet, whose lineage smells of Vivendi Universal, is not.

    But maybe that's just me.

    by Captain RW on Saturday February 25 2006 @ 10:09PM PST [ reply | parent ]
    This person seems very unhappy, even admits he may steal, why doesn't he just go to another company which he trusts, if he can find one. It seems that the very people that cry foul, may be the ones that would foul if given the chance. We trust CD Baby, and certainly Derek's credibility, and haven't found very much else to trust out there.
    I don't think it is at all right for Derek to have to take this kind of slander, when he has done so much to help the indie entertainer, especially when there is no evidence at all.

    The best to you Derek,

    RW

    by Sally on Friday June 30 2006 @ 09:18PM PDT [ reply | parent ]
    CDBaby is doing a GREAT job! No one needs to panic, Rome wasn't built in a day. I'm happy to say CDBaby has done an excellent job for me! I'm not sure how it happened, but American Idol Underground is doing a super job getting our music out there! My song - Broomstick Ponies - a sibling song for all ages hit no. #20 last week and #20 this week 6/26. Who could ask for more? Thanks Derek and your crew. You are AWESOME!!

    by Sally on Friday June 30 2006 @ 09:19PM PDT [ reply | parent ]
    OOPS - Broomstick Ponies hit # TEN this week!! Yay!!

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