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    Scary NPR Open Mic Agreement
    posted by Igor on Wednesday February 18 2004 @ 03:38PM PST
    Need your feedback! The music submission form for NPR's Open Mic is at http://www.npr.org/programs/asc/submissions/index.html

    I like NPR! In fact, I'm a subscriber with KCRW, and I would love to get some exposure on All Songs Considered.

    But, the wording of the agreement made me hesitate. It sounds like there is no limit to what they can do once they get the CD. You have to sign this:

    "In consideration of NPR's review of the Material in connection with its program All Songs Considered (the "Program"), I irrevocably license NPR the right to copy, duplicate, perform, store, archive, retrieve, digitalize, transmit, and distribute the Material, in whole or in part, on a non-exclusive basis, worldwide, in perpetuity, in the Program on the NPR Web site and in other media now or hereafter known. This license is assignable by NPR at its sole discretion."

    Can anyone say something that would make it sound more comfortable? Especially people who already have some experience with this program? Thank you!




    by Uncle Bergie on Friday February 20 2004 @ 12:00PM PST [ reply | parent ]
    I think that's fine. NPR is unlikely to go on tour with your music,
    and as long as it doesn't give them the right to sell it or make
    money directly from it, I think that's an OK agreement. In fact,
    I'm putting it on my todo list right now.

    Uncle Bergie


    by SCAREA 61 on Friday February 20 2004 @ 12:52PM PST [ reply | parent ]
    It would seem that "Distributing" the material could be taken to mean "Sell" it.. Depending on what planet you're from.

    A.J. Russell


    by Pablo Plasencia on Saturday February 21 2004 @ 12:38PM PST [ reply | parent ]
    I really think that the key to the thing is in the word "non-exclusive." NPR's interest is in having access to the music that they solicit. Our interest is in having our music receive exposure. This agreement does not appear to supercede any other agreements that we might make regarding our copyrighted materials, only to give NPR the rights to use it as they see fit. Frankly, I'd love to have my stuff on an NPR released disk of tunes from All Songs Considered or Morning Becomes Ecclectic. I think both of our interests are served by this deal.

    - Pablo

    by Wade Curtis on Sunday February 22 2004 @ 08:36AM PST [ reply | parent ]
    I have done quite a few license agreements in my time, and though not a lawyer, and by no means an "expert," here are a couple of things to consider: Though the wording in the paragraph does seem to give NPR a broad use license, the key word (besides "non-exclusive") is "Program." You need to look at how that word is defined earlier in the agreement. Hopefully it limits NPR use to specific instance, (e.g. the "All Things Considered" program); second, although "distribute" is quite a broad term, it could be argued that a specific right to "sell" was not intended, other than for use in the "Program." I plan to look into this mysefl, and will go and look at the entire agreement, as without the complete language it's hard to tell, but unlikely that you'll be giving them rights to sell your product other than in their usual business of distributing programs for broadcast. Also, remember that NPR is non-profit, and also, if you do not receive consideration (i.e. a royalty, advance, etc.) it would be hard for NPR to just go out and "sell" CD's with your music, without first licensing the publishing rights, etc.
    Hope this helps a bit...

    WC



    by king orba on Monday February 23 2004 @ 03:57PM PST [ reply | parent ]
    No direct experience with NPR's music submissions, YET. But after reviewing their form and fine print, it's in my opinion that you really have no worries. Natural concern, sure. But far from SCARY.

    NPR is merely protecting itself against unwarranted legalities, and insuring the integrity of it's voice in the world. Remember, that they are an Icon among radio stations. The journalistic nature of their programs result in a vast field open to criticism. You could say they're in the spotlight in that aspect. Especially considering the global attention and forum of awareness. As opposed to your community or rock'n'roll station brodcasting around the corner. We've all seen those submission regulations and they're much more inviting. In other words, you'll never see the word; perpetuity.

    You are basically giving NPR the rights to create a great opportunity for you. The agreement is standard compared to film studio agreements that license music for use. Except those dealings are far excessive in the fine print. I know from experience. And you want them to have permission for all of this. If you don't, then there's zero opportunity.

    IF NPR is going to use your music, or if you're fortunate enough to have them select your material for a NPR compilation, they have standard procedures to follow. And during this process, you are made aware. They WILL contact you. They're not in the business of surprising people and taking things for granted. My personal experience with NPR was direct contact with the head of Public Relations as well as immediate staff, concerning permission for the use of NPR's name and likeness to be used in the movie, "The Life of David Gale". Cosidering the delicate nature of the film, I was ready for NPR to decline participation. But expressing the intended use, which was to be a prop of some sort, to give insight to Laura Linney's character, NPR responded with sincere enthusiasm and after expedient review gave permission. Maybe IT WAS the nature of the film. Anything sophmorish or without thought provoking context, would be an absolute waste of their time. However, the graphic department at NPR fabricated 3 different, simple, stylish tote bags, with NPR embroidered on them. One was chosen by Laura, and then aged a bit, stuffed with appropriate paperwork and photographed on film. It became a hero prop. The stitching hardly noticeable, but still attention to detail. I have to thank NPR for making me look good. All this happened according to appropriate proceedures, and I'm sure it's the same when the table is turned.

    If you are still extremely concerned after all this, my suggestion is take the opportunity anyway, and be very selective about what material you submit. It's clearly worth the time and energy to be considered for this program.
    Don't be scared of NPR. Be excited about the possibilities.

    Regards and all the best, king orba
    http://www.cdbaby.com/kingorba

    by Noah Peterson on Tuesday March 09 2004 @ 10:21AM PST [ reply | parent ]
    I agree with the hesitation - it seems you're signing quite a bit away. But it's NPR - chances are you won't get played. They don't really have the resources, staff to go into music piracy. It's kind of against their mission. And the negative PR that would come about from abusing musicians would be very damagin to their reputation, their government funding and their listening base. I don't think they're that foolish, but you never know. I did send in my CD.

    by Barb on Monday June 28 2004 @ 02:42AM PDT [ reply | parent ]
    I would be hesitant as well...
    Amazon started out only selling cd's and things then they
    changed their contract to read the same as you menitoned and
    now they are alos doing MP3's...when the wording feels too open
    ended for me olike it does in what you wrote ther, I usualyl
    wonder about what would happen if they grew into another
    area?: After all alot of businesses don't end up where they start
    from..they change over time and if I'm giving that much away ,
    how will they change. I'm finding myself learning more about
    companies before I sign stuff and to actually alkw ith people and
    mee them and see if I'm comfy working with them before I sign
    stuff....just my 2 cents
    regards
    BArb

    by Barb on Monday June 28 2004 @ 02:43AM PDT [ reply | parent ]
    oops..sorry for all the typos..

    by TzeMan on Monday January 02 2006 @ 04:18PM PST [ reply | parent ]
    AS LONG AS YOU'VE REGISTERED YOUR COPYRIGHTS...
    there's nothing to lose.
    You still own the rights, NPR just gets a non-exclusive license for broadcast/distribution.
    Like all radio stations, they have to report playlists to ASCAP/BMI, so you'll receive performance royalties.
    As far as mechnical royalties, I doubt if NPR's opening a music store. Even if they do, you still own the copyright; you're just granting them a free mechanical license to duplicate for internal purposes. Each copy NPR makes is further promotion for your music, so don't worry. Those few cents a copy that you'd be "losing" is well worth the publicity you get back. If users download your music for free from NPR, yes, that's potential profit lost; but nobody goes to NPR to find established artists. In other words, I seriously doubt NPR's gonna be a major revenue drain for your music. By the time these free downloads add up to a major concern, you'd already be writing newer music as an establish artist -- and you WON'T be coming to Open Mic to release those anyway!
    Approaching NPR Open Mic means you got nothing to protect at this point. Nobody's gonna steal from an unknown artist thinking they'd get rich form it. The big names have a reputation to protect, which is much more important than to risk any kind of copyright infringement.
    If you should only be so lucky as to get your music stolen, it can actually be a good thing as long as you can easily prove coypright ownership. Let it be stolen, let it make millions, THEN, and ONLY THEN, call in your attorney to cash in.
    So, let's say you've got a sure hit song but no publicity, and you decide NOT to grant NPR a license for OPen Mic for fear of theft/infringement. Well, you've lost out on the potential millions in profits 'cuz no one would hear it in the first place, let alone steal it! When you're just an upstart, it's actually good news to get your music stolen.
    Just make sure all your copyrights are registered with LoC, and sign up with ASCAP or BMI ;)


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