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    Dealing with bogus requests for promos
    posted by Robert Balckburne on Friday January 23 2004 @ 07:27AM PST
    Marketing Ideas I have seen other CD Baby artists talk about receiving bogus requests from people trying to get an artist's music for free by misrepresenting themselves as a legitimate magazine or radio station, whether physical or online, who is looking to air or review said music.

    After the listing of our first label release on CD Baby, these requests started coming in by e-mail.

    It is our opinion these people must harvest CD Baby for artist contact information.

    One may ask what do I do? How do I know if it is a legitimate request or not? Will the artist's music end up re-sold, bootlegged, or put online on a song-sharing website? This is how you tell the difference:

    Return their contact and ask for the following information.

    1) Postal address of the magazine or station, not a P.O. Box.

    2) Name of editor or station manager and a telephone # or e-mail contact for them.

    3) If it is a print magazine, request a copy. If it is a radio station ask for their frequency, call letters, and their area of coverage.

    4) Ask them how often they put out new issues if they are a magazine or what times and days their radio station program airs?

    5) Ask for the magazine or radio station's website address if they did not supply one in the initial contact to you.

    6) If they are a radio station ask them if they log and report airplay to the appropriate music publishing clearinghouses (BMI, ASCAP, etc.).

    Lastly, take any information you get and/or they provide additionally and go to a major search engine. Run some searches and you should be able to tell who is legitimate and who is just scamming for free music. If they are a scammer, you will probably never hear from them again after you request this additional information from them.

    Personal story:

    The following is certainly not a good business approach to any business, but how else do you react? We are a U.S. company and received an e-mail from an individual somewhere in an obscure country that basically states "I an a DJ on a radio show. Our country is poor and people can't afford to buy music. Could you send a free CD for use on our radio program so people can know your music."

    Our reaction to this is that we are sympathetic to the poverty in their country. There is poverty everywhere unfortunately. However, if people in their country have no money to buy music, then there is no sense in us distributing and promoting music in their area. It costs a lot of money to record, manufacture, distribute, and promote an album release. Despite our wanting everyone in the world to hear an artist's music, it is money that makes the business operate and without it there is no business. We now tell them there are song samples of the artist's music online to satisfy their musical cravings.

    Check out the Raven Hurst Records release, Delusion's "The Tragedy of Regret" on CD Baby at http://www.cdbaby.com/delusion




    by david fiorenza on Saturday January 24 2004 @ 03:24PM PST [ reply | parent ]
    Thank you for the article. Good article! I agree w/ every thing you said. Be careful & do research & you will reap the benefits.

    by Jada Greenway on Tuesday February 10 2004 @ 12:51PM PST [ reply | parent ]
    Great article...however,artists should also know that there are independant DJs with legal webcasts who request cds from artists...i have a webcast at live365.com myself and i have tried very hard to program every cd i have recieved...i am now out of disc space for the time being and have posted a comment on my broadcaster page stating that it may take up to 6 weeks for artists' song to be programmed...so artists...beware...but also keep in mind some of us have good intentions and WANT to play your music !

    by Robert Blackburne on Thursday February 12 2004 @ 12:19PM PST [ reply | parent ]
    Thought I'd follow-up my post with some thoughts about independent DJ's with webcasts as was mentioned by the last person posting a reply here.

    Webcasts can be a great way of getting promotion for an artists music. There are some very good sites out there streaming music that shouldn't be overlooked. In most cases , these webcast sites can be found online and the maintainer can be emailed with requests for things like playlists , average number of listeners , etc. for further verification. As far as being "legal" , this is a loosely used term. One might ask themselves if the webcast is logging plays to the appropriate publishing clearinghouses. Physical radio stations are required to do this and so are online sources streaming published music. I am not saying this should be required of every independent DJ with a webcast as sometimes the promotional value of the airplay far outweighs the publishing value and should be waivable by the person(s) controlling the rights to an artist's music. However , be careful in the use of the word "legal" unless the webcast site is actually paying annual fees to the appropriate publishing clearinghouses for airing of published music. This is what "legal" would require and I didn't right the rules , I just abide by them !

    I would be curious to hear some feedback here from other webcast DJ's on what quality music is being streamed at and whether a listener can save a playing song to their own computer. Do webcast hosts overlay the beginning or ends of songs with lead-ins/outs from the show host to avoid pirating of a full-length song, if streamed at cd quality ?

    by Joe Jay on Sunday March 07 2004 @ 05:46PM PST [ reply | parent ]
    I copied the info right away and will adhere to it. Tanks, thankxz and ...ahghh....Thankyou.

    by jada greenway on Thursday March 25 2004 @ 12:52PM PST [ reply | parent ]
    about downloading from online radio stations...concerning amateur and professional stations...my station at http://www.live365.com/stations/306392 which is an amateur station at this point- only plays "streams"...there is not a way for the public to download an artist's song for free or for $$$...if a listener likes a song they hear, they can click on the song title and be immediately linked to the artist's website or they can go to http://groups.msn.com/artistlinks.msnw and find that artist...my station does not make any money from the artist's music !...my station was created in the hopes of playing the music of independant artists like myself, and hopefully i will someday be able to take my station to a professional level...i am also a CDBABY.COM artist...my site is http://cdbaby.com/cd/rhiannon2 -I would NEVER offer another musician's music to the public without the artist's permission !

    by jada greenway on Thursday March 25 2004 @ 12:54PM PST [ reply | parent ]
    oops...i got that artist links url wrong...here's the correct one http://groups.msn.com/artistlinks/links

    by cranston on Thursday June 22 2006 @ 01:33PM PDT [ reply | parent ]
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    by stanberry on Friday June 23 2006 @ 09:01PM PDT [ reply | parent ]
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    by garroway on Wednesday July 12 2006 @ 09:23PM PDT [ reply | parent ]
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