| CD Baby DIY Musician Podcast |
 June 29,
2009
Ep.65 : Matthew Ebel - Stream your concerts to the world
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| CD Baby Music Podcasts |
 Music Discovery
 Hip Hop
 60's Pop
 Rockabilly
 Top Sellers
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| CD Baby pays out $3 million to musicians. Sales doubling. |
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Exactly 5 years after I started this little online record store, our payouts to musicians just hit the $3 million mark.
What's best is that it took:- 3.5 years to hit the first $1 million
- 9 months to hit $2 million
- Only 4.5 months to hit $3 million.
Here's our most recent sales chart, for CD sales through 2002:
So what's this about the music industry being in a slump? Perhaps it's only the major labels that are slumping while the independents are thriving?
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> So what's this about the music industry being
> in a slump? Perhaps it's only the major labels
> that are slumping while the independents are
> thriving?
EXACTLY. The labels would be fine if they stopped cranking out high volumes of garbage. Long live CD Baby!
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Way cool, Derek! I'm a new member of CD Baby but it's the ONLY place I send people to buy my CD online. CD Baby is to Sony as Southwest Airlines is to United! Keep it close to the customer, my man.
Thanks and congratulations...
James Curley
www.cdbaby.com/jfcurley
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Awwwww!! Thanks for that comparison. I always tried to make CD Baby like SouthWest Airlines or Ben & Jerry's Ice Cream. :-)
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Thank you Derek, for being an independent music messiah! More power to the indie world...
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Fantasimoliscious!
CDBaby - "the hope beyond the hype."
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HAPPY BIRTHDAY, BABY!!! Derek & crew, you guys are doing a fantastic job! Thanks for being here for us little guys (not little for long, though). Bravo to you!
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Ah, to be independent, happy and making the music I love...what a great life. My band RIPE is so happy to be part of the CD-Baby family!
--Christa
RIPE
always at CD-Baby!
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Congratulations on selling 3 million.
OutSTANDING.
I find this very amazing, considering you can't hear all the songs from each CD on CDBaby.
As a listener, I only buy CDs if I know the entire CD is worth it. The CDBaby artists I've discovered have actually been found thru Whole Wheat Radio, where I can request each song of their release. The station links to the artists, who often link to CD Baby. Ruthie Foster is next on my list to buy, because of one of their album spotlights.
http://www.wholewheatradio.com/
(Their server is down as I write this, but try again if you can't get thru.)
So, if CD Baby ever decides to stream the entire CD, they'd sell more to music lovers like me, who hate to disappointed with music purchases.
I'm sure the costs of streaming each song are too high, but thought I'd mention it! The more the soul-less major labels are put to shame, the better.
Christina
Violet Edge
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It's not the cost! We'd LOVE it if people put up every song. But some feel that they'd be giving too much away & people wouldn't want to buy it anymore. Strange, huh?
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Oh. That IS strange.
When we release our full CD on CD Baby, can we request all songs be clipped?
Even if you charge us extra for the clipping time, I'd rather pay it to prove to listeners that the CD has no filler songs to hide.
Thanks,
Christina
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Hi Christina,
Absolutely, we do not charge extra if you want all of your CD tracks done, just select them all in your control panel.
That said, we strongly encourage sending some chocolate, tea or cool coffee to us. The production people here LOVE goodies when they're going the extra mile for you. :-)
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Thank you so much! I really had misunderstood the whole issue. For years I thought it was CD Baby's policy and not the artist's choice. When I joined two weeks ago, the form asked me to pick 3 songs to clip. So you see...
Anyhow, we are chatting about CDBaby today on Whole Wheat Radio's chat page. Trying to convince Esther to join and sell her live CD thru CD Baby. And many of the listeners are musicians.
I hope that will substitute for chocolate until we finish our full CD!
Thanks for all your replies.
Christina
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Thanks Derrick, for this fantabulous site!! i never knew just how good my music was until i had cats from London to Japan asking me if they could play my music on their radio stations & promote all throughout Asia!! although im not "hitting" in the u.s. like i wanna, im sure its only a matter of time before Dana Marsale steps up into the r&b game baby!!! (readers hit me at caperentertainment.com, "original" r&b baby!) ROCK ON CD BABY!! (you too Derrick)
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Love it, sold 2 albums this week!
Noah
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CONGRATULATIONS HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YA! First and foremost, CDBaby is the premiere independent artist distribution & record label site. We celebrate with Derek and the crew at SGM; because we joined them for our first release and now our eighth release is in the mail! If it wasn't for CD Baby we might be spinning our wheels, wasting time and money, trying to get in the major label doors. Salute to Derek & CD baby "How to" Crew! All hail King Derek!
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CD Baby will be my only on-line store for a while too, since Amazon now wants to charge an annual fee around $45 for advantage accounts beginning May 1st. I'm proud of Derek and the folks at CD Baby for their achievements. I know they work their assess off for this success! Thank you!
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I look forward to publish a record out by the end of this year and i depend on cd baby to help me succed. Keep the good work up.
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CDbaby is only going to get bigger so hold on for
a wild,happy and exciting ride.Independant labels
are replacing the majors as it should be,insuring the people who create the music are rewarded not robbed.Much success to cdbaby and all independant
labels and artist!Holla back if you feel me!
cdbaby.com/vegas
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Thank you CDBaby for helping me to sell my album, and for doing it in the right way!
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devil's workshop big band would like to
congratulate derek sivers and cdbaby on five
GREAT years of doing the right thing.
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My hands are waving high up in the air for CD Baby.
Cd baby has this way of making you feel important. Everyone there is working hard to sell our CD's. I am very impressed by the relationship we have developed.
Thank you Derek and all the staff for you efforts!
Lori Cullen
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I've been in the top 10 for smooth jazz under Soundclick.com charts for 5 months. "It's All About Love" has made it to no. 1 and is still no. 10 on charts. Thanks to you Derek, Ronald Turner And The Fashion Statement is a band that's on it's way. Airplay in the LA area is just around the corner. You know how hard that can be. My promoters love the stuff we've done. We can't thank you enough for what you've done. Keep on sellin' me baby!
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Congratulations Derek, and to all who work to make CD Baby such a success!
It's always enjoyable doing business with CD Baby, and it's great to see the public support of independent artists.
cheers, Adrian
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| by dg
on Wednesday March 12 2003 @ 02:58PM PST [ reply | parent ] |
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i was just curious what percentage of your population makes money,are certain ones making all the money or is it fairly spread out. thanks,keep up the good work dg
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It's a curve, of course. We're just one little record store, so it's hard to tell who's made their money back & who hasn't. But if you look at the top-sellers list http://cdbaby.com/topever - most of those folks have made about $100k from us.
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Indie is the only way!
I found out about cdbaby.com at a Kerrville Folk Festival workshop.
It was and is refreshing to find solutions and sales in one great site.
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Congratulations on your success and I pray 3 more million in less than a year! I think you're doing a wonderful job because my CD sold 2 copies in one week of advertisement on CDBaby. I'm here for life! Congratulations again!!
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hey! Happy Birthday Baby! I am new to CD Baby but I love it. You guys are great!
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Derek! you rock! Truely there is still someone out there who does it only for the love of music, and look how it profits!! I won't be surprised when Sony or other major labels try to sue you in the future cause you're steeling sales (in their opinion).
Heres an idea- T-shirts with the cdbaby emblem on the front in support of such a good cause. I'd buy one! WHO'S WITH ME?!! ALLRIGHT! YEAH!! (those are my manly grunts to get the crowd warmed up)
Strictly off the hizzle my blizzle,
Derek Auth
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Dayam- 5 years of your fantabulous achievements and still the majors think they have a chance? Oi- when will they ever learn?!
I have forwarded your e-mail tips, etc. onto everyone and their mother. Thanks for the continued inspiration you've provided us all!!
And of course, happy bday! I hope you're spending it eating lots of chocolate :) Hmm.. Chocolate...
Danny Katz
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Derek,
Many congrats on your CD Baby successes.You are very blessed,and I wish I would of would of been the one to come up with your idea.
Okay,here goes my cynical self,the only problem with all this is,you are making alot of money,and the musicians you are charging to set-up pages aren't making any(or at least not much at all).Well,let me at least speak for myself,I have sold 3 CD's on CD Baby since I joined almost a year ago,and that is only because of the friends I told about it.Plus,I have a feeling I am not the only musician out there who has not sold many by way of your service.I still have yet to sell one by any regular consumer browsing your pages.How the hell can a musician sell his or her CD's in quantity on CD Baby?If you have anymore,or new ideas please let us know.Best regards.Scott Mann
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>> you are making alot of money,and the musicians you are charging to set-up pages aren't making any
C'mon. Anyone who's ever run a little store knows that just because $3 million passed THROUGH us, doesn't mean we MADE $3 million! I wish!
No it's still just a little record store. Nobody's getting rich. Yes the rent is paid and it's in the black, but nobody's a millionaire here.
That $35 setup we have to charge covers the four full-time customer service people here answering the phones and about 500 emails a day. Plus the shelf space, warehouse cost, etc. The $4 cut we keep only pays the warehouse guys that do the shipping.
>>I still have yet to sell one by any regular consumer browsing your pages.
Maybe you should alter your one-sentence style description, your genre-categories, your sounds-like famous artist listings, etc. These are the things that get you noticed on CD Baby.
Many musicians say they sell more to total strangers through CD Baby than any other source.
Read some of the other posts here if you don't believe me.
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Some people kill me Derek.
Cd Baby gives you a platform to advertise and sell your product.Get serious and take out some ad space in your local paper, Music Rags,banner ads on Rollingstone.com, flyer your local record stores and colleges and do it relentlessly for a period of a year.You will get results and build a
base.Keep rockin' in the free world Derek!
Doug Cash
www.swrecords.net
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In response to Scott Mann's posting, I think each of us artists is responsible for promoting their own cdbaby page and making as many people as possible aware of the album. I reckon I probably send at least 50 emails a day to radio stations/the global press etc inviting them to listen to my extracts and then offering them a free promo CD if they like what they hear. Of the 50 emails I write, I probably get one or two reply, sometimes more, sometimes none. You have to be really resourceful. Go to local gigs where music similar to the sort you make is being played and hand out your flyers with your CDbaby address on. Without a major label behind you no-one can deny it can be a hard slog at times but how well we sell, is essentially down to us i think!
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derek
a big congratulations..do visit the cdbaby thread on the rope
and --see my full letter to thank you,there, too..
all my bands are happy i recommend you.
ms indypub
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Cool site Derek! congrats on reaching the
3 million payouts
EVERYONE dont forget! where you can pick up the new
NED KELLY 7:50 minute epic ballad
@ cdbaby/russaimz
also at www.russaimz.com
Hurry before there all sold out due to the upcoming MOVIE! what a FRENZY this will create>>>>>>>>>>
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Congrats guys on your continued success!
Thanks,
Ant
www.Shoot4nooN.com
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Oh Yeah! Derek - you da man!
Thanks for creating this wonderful palce and helping the
community to survive and thrive. I am looking forward to my
first 10,000 CD sales, with your help!
Love,
George Kahn
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You know I've just joined the site this week and in the first day I sold a CD and the second day another. I've been on a cloud all week. I am so thankful for this site and you Derrick for having the heart to give of yourself and allow us hungry musicians a place to release our baby's to the universe. I've been very concerned about the state of music, but with this site creativity is now back in the hands of artist's not the bean crunchers. Thank You and God Bless You and Yours
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It the little things that counts. All a cdbaby needs is a little attention. Great work guys we make music for the people people buy music for what ever keep it Hot sell a lot.
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Oh they haven't seen nothing yet! No Iny or major will ever accommplish what is about to go down meaning accumlating sells regardless of the Country. It truly will be a world wide Work of ART & Soul of Music. That CDbaby will sell no matter what country a artist is from. You will be the first online independent to reach 1 billion in sales quicker than any other indy or major distributor off line independent ever did. Trust ME!What better way to spend your money buying a whole lot of chocolate cookies with a whole lot of MILK for all your cdbabies, YEAH BABY! :>)
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HAPPY BIRTHDAY
to Derek and the crew..........
and many many more!!!!!
Cheers,
jaen
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CD BABY ROCKS! You guys have helped us more than any other online retailer! Rock on...and thanks...
Peace,
Andy
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Hi Derek,
Congratulations on your success! I joined CD baby and my gospel CD titled "Who Is Like Unto You?" featuring contemporary, traditional and Caribbean gospel (reggae gospel and soca/calypso gospel) went up in the new releases on March 4, 2003. Yesterday, I sold my first CD through CDbaby.com!!!!!!!!!!I am so excited. Thanks for letting us see where hits to our page come from. You guys are great. You definitely beat out the deal that amazon.com offers especially now that they are going to start charging. I really try to send people to you guys as much as possible and usually include my cdbaby.com page at http://www.cdbaby.com/aquannette in my email messages in addition to including my own site at http://www.aquannette.com which has on the navigation bar a buy cd link to my cdbaby.com page. Keep up the great work!
Aquannette Chinnery
http://www.aquannette.com
http://www.cdbaby.com/aquannette
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In reply to Scott who asks about all the musicians who haven't yet sold any CDS... to be fair, CD Baby isn't here to promote the music to the outside world, just to sell the CDs, like a record shop would. I've not sold any CDs yet either... but I've done absolutely no promotion either, so I'm hardly surprised! But when I do get my ass in gear to spread the word about my wonderful music(!), I know there's a very cool place that any interested parties can come to to buy it...
Dan
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Congrats Derek,
I'm like many other artist who would like to sell more CDs, nevertheless, your site has opened many doors for me and my music. I think it's great. I appreciate being able to make necessary changes on the bio page when I need to, as well as being able to check the hits. Keep up the good work.
Wade
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Great going Derek and team...I've yet to get some sales for "California Blue" on line. however, I'm so pleased for all the artists who have sold CDs and reaping the benefits made possible through cdbaby....Keep up the good work guy's & gals..Roll on the next 3 mil +.
Best wishes and cheers...the "Sax Man".
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By the way, please listen to some cool tracks and make my day by telling your friends or even buying "california Blue" on line so at least I can say my Album has been sold overseas,
Cheers,
The "Sax Man".
http://cdbaby.com/williamtell1
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Hello Derek;
Have been pleased have not set the world on fire but at lease we sell steady through CD baby like the idea of direct phone # we now have .
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I have been with CDBABY since 2000. The experience has been a pleasure.
Is CDBABY stock offered publicly?
HAPPY BIRTHDAY
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No public stock, and never will be. I'd rather die than go public. Thanks for asking, though.
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Congrats Derek keep up the good work its great to be a part of the Family
Nonno Lee
Voila Entertainment Inc.
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GRACIAS Y FELICIDADES MIS AMIGOS!!!
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Wow. I'm so happy for you Derek and for all of us. Imagine if the sales continue to grow what it could do for us. It's actually a little exciting!
Alias
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Derek....You've been there, done that, made the mistakes, and learned it the hard way!!! 2 inch audiotape at 500 bones a roll. As computers, audio, and the internet developed You stuck your neck out to make it easier, more affordable, and feasible to be heard around the world! An unselfish act. My Father (Robert Taylor) named the "real" father of the internet (New York Times and many other sources) pushed the envelope of technology for the same. congratulations. E.T.
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"Felicidades Derek and Cdbaby" Don't worry 4 millions is just around the corner.
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Derek,
What can I say??? TRULY AMAZING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You have given so much hope to musicians the world over, especially at a time when the big labels are dying left and right! It's the power of your brain and your passion for MUSIC that made all of this happen.GREAT THINGS TO COME!!!
CDBABY RULES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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'ALEXANDRITE'
'A Ned Kelly Epic'
"THIS SONG ROCKS"
Get it now @
cdbaby.com/russaimz
& www.russaimz.com
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| by
on Wednesday March 19 2003 @ 04:18AM PST [ reply | parent ] |
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Aloha from TRI-Sikle,
Hauoli la hanau Baby(Happy Birthday!) and many many more. Kudos to you Derek and your chocolate deprived staff. The fruits of your labor have not gone unnoticed.
Mahalo from TRI-Sikle
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Cool site Derek! congrats on reaching the
3 million payouts
Ned Kelly-Ned kelly-Ned Kelly-Ned Kelly-Ned Kelly
EVERYONE dont forget! where you can pick up the new
NED KELLY 7:50 minute epic ballad
@ cdbaby/russaimz
also at www.russaimz.com
Hurry before they're all sold out due to the upcoming MOVIE! >>>>>>>>>>
'LONG LIVE NED'
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It's time CD Baby;
I like what I have seen on your board. As a Indy Record lable and Publishing Company, I can see what all the hubbub is about!!! CD Baby you will be getting My CD's on all of my artist. Just tell me how I can link CD Baby site thru Topflight Unlimited Sound Studio so I can re-direct all of my listeners. Thanks CD Baby.
Mr Flight/CEO
TopFlight Unlimited Sound Studio(South)
T.U.S.S. Publishing
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>>Just tell me how I can link CD Baby site thru Topflight Unlimited Sound Studio so I can re-direct all of my listeners.
Just go to http://cdbaby.com/link
Search for the CDs you want to link to, then click [OK --> GO!]
It will help give you the HTML code you need to link to your page on CD Baby - including making you a shopping cart to put on your own site, if you want!
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How much of CD Baby's business is from referrals?
I was turned on to CD Baby from a former and current CD Baby artist. When it was decided to market a compilation CD, one of the very first places I visited without hesitation was CD Baby.
This is a great service and surely worth a whole lot more.
Thanks for being there for all of us.
Rick Winslow, Owner
Rockland Recordings
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>>How much of CD Baby's business is from referrals?
Most. Those are my favorite, because people come in knowing we're good people. The ones who hear of us through an advertisement, by contrast, come in suspicious - making us prove to them that we're OK.
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As far as the slump goes, This must be why Clear Channel is trying to put the screws to us indies. Marc from INDIEgo Promotions may have to completely rethink his entire company because of new laws passed by Bush. It all has to do with independent promotion companies being able to get INDIE CD's on public radio. I'm putting out a call to anyone willing to get involved to make our voices heard. If they pull this off it will ensure that we stay stuck at a certain point without being able to move any further up the ladder without some kind of major label help. And for someone like me, who LOVES being an independent artist, I think it totally sucks! E-mail me at PaulRaderInc@aol.com
Congrats Derek! What you're doing for us is a beautiful thing, man.
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Hey, I just picked up West Coast Performer Magazine - they're free at the rehearsal studios around here - and it had this among its news stories. Nice to see CDBaby being mentioned in the press :)
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We just took you up on your offer to add our
entire catalog (8 CD's) for the cost of a smilie
face per add. It would have been great if we
could have done all 8 for just one smilie face
though. (I was so close to redeeming those
faces for a new pencil at
www.smilieface.com.) Thanks for not going
for my Monopoly Money stash...I'm only 2 pink
5's away from my new 1" wheelbarrow!
Maybe you could share the wealth and post a
partial viewing of your smilie face collection.
; - ) Yea, BayBay!
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A guy starts a record label called X-It Records.
He signs his first act, Smell The Fist, records
them and presses up CDs. He only manages
to sell 500 copies of their CD in one year. The
band's royalty (their yearly haul), split among 5
band members, is $1000. The owner of the
label, over the course of the next five years,
signs 2000 bands, many Smell The Fist
clones, Smell The Fist tribute bands, and
Smell The Fist Sing Raffi type bands. He sells
about 500 copies per band CD, each band
getting their $1000.
The label owner now sees himself selling
over 1 million CDs a year.
Question, is this a successful business?
If you answered yes to the first question,
would you feel great about being a band on
this label's roster?
Question, if the label owner of X-It Records
decides the quickest way to 2 million in
annual CD sales (double) is to sign 2000
more bands (double), is his success now
even more incredible?
Inspired by Confucious.
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You make a great point!
What do you suggest, Rhetorical, be used as a "measuring stick" for success in this aspect of business?
I am just curious because you made an excellent point above.
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Any focus on total sales or total discs sold is
really meaningless as a measuring stick for
progress where the individual artists are
concerned. It only shows a company is
growing in revenue/profit, which is success to
an owner or key employee of a venture.
If the fictious label in the above example,
though it's hard work, marketing tactics and
public relations genius, could say, in 2000,
our sales per artist averaged $3500, in 2001,
$5000 and in 2002, approaches $10,000, one
could conclude the growth and synergy not
only affected owner/employees, but also
affected artists, who could see that growth is
simply not a matter of adding artists, but that
some other kind of skills were being used to
produce growth for the artist community as
well.
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Another way to think about it would be if you
were an artist on the ficticious label X-It
Records, and sat down with management
with the idea of brainstorming on how you
could perhaps do better, and the company
replied, "Do better? What are you talking
about, we sold 2 million CDs last year, we
doubled sales year-to-year, we're doing great!"
I can assure you the brainstorming session
wouldn't yield a lot of great ideas, when one
party thinks things are just aces as they are.
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HEY DERRICK MAN KEEP UP THE GOOD
WORK MAN
YOU THE MAN!
THANKS FOR THIS KIND OF OUTLET
AND ALL THE THINGS YOUR DOING FOR
INDEPENDENT ARTIST
PEACE
MALIK-Z
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I Luv
Indie Artist Maurice Strong PLEASE showcase him more, I love the song IM SORRY and Glad I Found U from his second album.
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I'm curious. If an artist like Usher sold 8 million copies of his latest cd, how much does he pocket?
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