 |
|
  |
| 3147 checks for $69,050.13 last week! |
|
 |
|
| posted by Derek Sivers on Thursday January 03 2002 @ 05:34PM PST |
|
|
|
|
Wow... last week, on December 31, I wrote 3147 checks to musicians - for a total of $69,050.13 - just for last week alone!
That's puts us over the $1 million mark: over $1 million paid to musicians since I started this little "hobby"
(...and boy is my signature hand tired!)
:-)
Gotta watch out when you start a little hobby "on the side." Never know when it's gonna totally take off.
For those who don't know, just 2-3 years ago CD Baby was something I ran out of my living room, just selling my own CD, and a few friends' CDs. It was meant to be a hobby since I made my living by touring.
But word-of-mouth turned it into this THING... which had customers... and MORE customers... buying lots and LOTS of CDs!
All without trying.
I think there's some kind of Taoist lesson in here.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Self-congratulations, not surprizing.
An average of $21 an artist, with over half the
artists getting nothing at all.
It's not weird its just a numbers game. If you
have 50 artists, you'd have paid probably
$400. If you have 8000 or 9000 you pay
$69,000. It's not weird, it's just a numbers
game. Simple math. Double your titles next
year and you'll be cutting checks for $138,000
a week. Still probably an average of $21 ann
artist, and still over half the artists not getting
paid.
Double, triple or quadruple the average per
artist - then you'll be doing something 'weird'.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
CD Baby is a great retailer, which is more artist-friendly than any other outlet I've ever come across.
I challenge anyone to find another place out there that will take your $14 CD, hold on to as many copies as your want them to, host a website for it, put them in style-organized galleries, sell them via a variety of shipping methods, and then give you $10 back per disc.
As far as the "number" game goes, please remember that it's really just a fulfillment outlet. You still have to do the same awful drudge work as before: promotion, marketing, and publicity. Almost all of our CDBaby sales come through people referred by external sources (#1 word of mouth, #2 MP3.COM, #3 listening to music samples on the website)
The $21/artist average comes from Derek's generosity at including everyone who wants to be a part of the store, not from his "failing to sell your CD", because in the end that's really your job.
Cheers,
Andrew
Diffusion Records
http://www.diffusionrecords.com
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
I started an online CD store in 1996, two years
before CD Baby. Derek makes it look easy,
but don't be fooled. This is hard work.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Thanks Derek: I've sold a few through CDbaby and am very pleased to have a cool site to have people sample my CD before purchasing.
Keep up the good work because it's a great idea.
James Owen
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
it is very hard to sell anything on-line. its all about gaining the users trust and that is something Cdbaby has managed to do. Also how can you expect to sell your music if you don't put the effort in. The artists on my site (www.glasswerk.co.uk hrumph) that get the most number of listens and traffic are those that work on promoting themselves.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Derek mentions that this was a hobby...that he wasn't even trying...that the CD Baby success story is a surprise to him...that it might even be a Taoist lesson.
Here's my take. Much like Derek, I haven't really tried to make a success of my music. It's something I do as a labor of love. It isn't about the money. Hell, I don't really promote myself. I'd rather go fishing.
But know this. Because of Derek's efforts, his no-frills, but honest business approach, not to mention his stewardship of independent artists' efforts, my CD is now being heard in Belgium, Switzerland, England, Japan, Canada, and God knows where else throughout the US.
Am I getting rich off of his efforts? Hell no. But that's not his responsibility. What Derek offers is a chance for us to put our music out there. If it's good, we'll know. People will contact us. Listeners will write us. The audience will show itself - but only if we, as musicians have earned it. Earning it, is our role - not Derek's.
Bottom line: Derek, and the other folks at CD Baby give us a venue. They give the independent musicians a chance to speak. And they do it with care, sincerity, honesty, and with a bit of flair and humor. It's up to us, the Indies, to take advantage of that chance.
So, to recap: I'm not getting rich from CD Baby. But I'm not trying to do so. All I asked of them was to offer my music via the "net". They've done that and more. I can't even imagine what will happen when I really try to promote myself.
And a final note to all the staff at CD Baby: I love you guys. Thanks. Pops Walker.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
I have to say, I am so happy with CD Baby! Derek kept his word that I would get my very own page, sound bites, and my money! I need that alternate source for sound bites and exposure. Because of that, I actually sold to someone who was just browsing and liked what they heard! Thank you and Congratulations Derek and every at Baby headquarters!
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
I should host Politically Incorrect instead of
Maher.
Perspective, boys and girls, perspective. Just
presenting perspective as to why it's not
'weird' - don't take it as if I was slandering your
mother, Rudi Juliani, or the Pope.
"I challenge anyone to find another place out
there that will take your $14 CD, hold on to as
many copies as your want them to, host a
website for it, put them in style-organized
galleries, sell them via a variety of shipping
methods, and then give you $10 back per disc.
"
Here's a couple, found in about 2 minutes on
Google:
http://www.planetcd.com
http://www.evor.com
http://www.indierec.com
http://www.indie-cds.com
http://www.guitar9.com
http://www.cddebut.com
http://www.joesgrille.com
Come up with a harder challenge.
(Actually a quick way to find them is to search
for Tim Sweeny, the guy had the presence of
mind to send his columns to every one of
them.)
"I started an online CD store in 1996, two
years before CD Baby. Derek makes it look
easy, but don't be fooled. This is hard work."
Anybody that knows you David knows that the
reason your store didn't suceed was that you
had way too many irons in the fire, and didn't
watch the 'store'.
The 'perspective' here is that if you believe the
hype on this site - that this is the only game in
town (there is no one that can prove or
disprove that claim), Sweeny himself is
spreading that nonsense, and the truth is that
indies are selling CDs all over the net. Since
they have to 'do the work', why shouldn't they?
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Hello sez: Anybody that knows you David
knows that the reason your store didn't
suceed was that you had way too many irons
in the fire, and didn't watch the 'store'.
Good comment.
There were a number of reasons that my store
failed, but I'd say that this was definitely one of
them. My heart wasn't in it, the time wasn't
right, etc.
The opposite is true for CD Baby. The fact that
Derek is concentrating on CD Baby is the
main reason why it has been a success.
Somebody mentioned something about Derek
starting CD Baby in order to be able get back
to doing music. I don't think that that is true
and I'd argue that Derek is as much into
marketing, programming, and everything else
involved with running CD Baby as he is into
music.
I remember talking to Derek in 1998 right after
he started CD Baby. I was shocked when he
told me that his shopping cart for the store
was about $1500.
The shopping cart to CD Baby is important,
but my reason for mentioning it is just an
example to show that when Derek Sivers does
something, he does it right. He could
do a lot less than he does, such as getting a
free shopping cart, and I'm sure he could
make a lot more money than he does by
cutting costs, but he's chosen to do things in a
solid manner rather than take shortcuts, patch
holes, etc.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Wow! I remember visiting Derek around April 1998 when CD Baby *was* just a baby in his living room, probably not shipping more than a handful of CDs a month.
"Numbers game" or not, I'm quite impressed seeing him take it from a idea to a reality and using a vision that he has stuck with that seems to have carried through all the economic crises faced by Net based business models. I've worked at an Internet company that burned $1 million a month of venture capital with virtually no product and no revenue.
When I saw a quote in WIRED's site mentioning recent sales figures I figured Derek had sold off the business. Doesn't look like it, though I guess he moved it to Portland? (I love the bridges there and Powells.com's city block of used books.)
There may be other sites trying to do the same thing, but I believe this one is one of the most sincere and artist oriented, and also founded and run by a musician!
And he offeres a lot of thoughts and resources on marketing. I'm sure they're linked in somewhere here but check out:
http://www.marketingyourmusic.com and
http://www.musicthoughts.com
or a nice interview I found where he questions the industry's idea that giving away MP3's hurts CD sales:
http://www.indiejournal.com/indiejournal/interviews/dereksivers.htm
All I can say is, count me in the fan club for Derek as not only a great musician but an admirable marketing wiz. I hope you're still recording music too!
It's great to see CD Baby still alive and kicking.
- Malcolm
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Hats off to Derek and all the staff at CD Baby for providing us independent artists a great opportunity for additional exposure (aside from our hometown ventures). You guys rawk...:<)
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
"Numbers gameor not, I'm quite impressed
seeing him take it from a idea to a reality and
using a vision that he has stuck with that
seems to have carried through all the
economic crises faced by Net based
business models. "
Heck, I'm impressed too, you'd have to be nuts
not to be, but are these numbers here to
impress?
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
"Heck, I'm impressed too, you'd have to be nuts not to be, but are these numbers here to impress?"
"Perspective, boys and girls, perspective."
Perspective - (2)a mental view of the relationship of aspects of a subject to each other and to a whole. (3)An idea of the relative importance of things.
Hello, you are presenting YOUR perspective, not perspective in its entirety. That's impossible for any single person to do, no matter how right they THINK they are...be it your mother, the Pope, Rudi Juliani, or Rudy Guiliani. But now, you've not only shared YOUR perspective, you've also answered your own question. Congratulations.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
I think Derek has done a superb job at making our music available to the world. Are there other sites that do this? Sure there are, but this is by far the most artist friendly outfit that I've come across yet. Derek has done everything he has offered to do for new CD Baby artists (for a reasonable fee), and surprisingly much more. He is always coming up with new tips and clever marketing ideas that can benefit us all if we take advantage of them. The rest of the staff is very responsive as well, and friendly as can be.
Promoting CD sales is the artist's business primarily. CD Baby has given us some great tools.
The rest is up to us. I've been making only a very modest effort to promote my music, I admit. (a full-time job and parenting two small kids does take a toll on my musical pursuits). Still, Willie T & Doctor X have sold more CDs through CD Baby than we have ever sold through record stores or through any other website (and to some pretty far-flung places that were previously beyond our reach). With a little more effort on my part, I hope to increase those sales substantially in 2002. Thanks, Derek, for all you do for us!
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
"Hello, you are presenting YOUR perspective,
not perspective in its entirety."
Yes, I see you have a firm grasp on the
obvious.
Who's perspective did you think I was
presenting?
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Thank you, Derek for taking your "hobby" of making my "hobby", a successful enterprise.
All the continued best in '02~
Cynthia
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Wheeeew....Ouch.....Hey!
Quit it! *Ouch* Quit it!
Okay...now that's out of the way.
Congrats Derek!
Ya Stood the Storm!
I'd like to add my "addaboyz"
to Derek & cdbaby now.
Hard Party was considering
not sending a new shipment
of our last cd, HOWEVER our Management
said "NO" you'll send more and the
New release as well.
I have to ablige or loose the contract.
The main reasons for me not wanting to
send more is, I don't trust the net.
And we don't really do well at cd sales
on the internet anywhoz. "HOWEVER"
The recent exposer we've received
was through "Derek's Work" & this site cdbaby.
It Was "Not" Hard Party's promoting,
we've been very Slack about
promoting the cd sale here to say the least.
TMALSS
Hard Party was contacted through
Cdbaby's artists email for a feature
article at Hardline Magazine in Munich Germany.
It May not be a deal to most
but to HP management and the band
we think it's pretty kool!
I even saw a band Hurricane featured
there (Saw Them in ATL.Ga. @ Fox Theater)
with Stryper in the 80's.
And they're also doing a piece on
one of my favorite Europian
bands from the 70's "MAGNUM"
What a hoot! Well I think so.
ATFAT
Thanks Derek & Cdbaby Staff.
We didn't sell a cd but....
We couldn't have paid for
the exposer we've received.
PS
We gotz the Check....Thank You!
Dan E Lee
Hard Party
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
OK, then let's cut to the chase.
You can subtitle this thread, "Thanks man for
helping me sell a couple of CDs, with or
without my own participation or interest, but
what I really shoudl have done was stop
messing about in music, and started a
business catering to others who'd like to sell a
couple CDs a month because I could make
enough money to hire everyone to do the grunt
work while I go back to making music, only
this time, my bills are paid."
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Oh my GOD will you get a LIFE, "Hello"? Derek and
CDBaby are the friendliest, most approachable
team. They're always willing to offer tips,
advice, and just go the extra mile that a lot of
those other companies don't. I mean, hell, Derek
even takes the time out to personally respond to
emails himself. At most other companies you get
some assistant who doesn't know his ass from his
elbow.
I think your musical frustration with the fact
that you haven't "hit the bigtime" as it sounds
was your (unachieved) goal has clouded your
intellect. As many people have wisely stated
previously, it is not Derek's nor CDBaby's
responsability to promote or sell our CDs, our
success relies SOLELY on us.
Maybe it's time you realize that the reason you
are a frustrated musician is that you have been
living under the notion that everyone else is
supposed to do the work FOR you...are you a
spoiled momma's boy whose daddy owns a big company
that you'll inherit one day?
Work harder to achieve musical success....it's
YOUR responsability. And don't forget to get a
life while you're out...
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
>You can subtitle this thread, "Thanks man for
>helping me sell a couple of CDs, with or
A couple? To date, we've almost sold two hundred through CDBaby.
- Andrew
p.s. I've noticed that your posts in other threads seem to be as disparaging and spiteful as in this one. Maybe you should channel all of that negative energy and start your own online CD store, hey maybe you can call it "AngryBaby"
Diffusion Records
http://www.diffusionrecords.com
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
"A couple? To date, we've almost sold two
hundred through CDBaby."
Hey dude, pay attention, I am talking per
month, with a few CDs selling 3-5 copies a
month each, eventually you hit 200, just as if
you will eventually hit age 21.
"Maybe it's time you realize that the reason you
are a frustrated musician."
I can't play a note of music, I am actually a fan
of the site and sites like it. I like to offer
alternative views that put numbers and other
'statistics' into perspective. Yes (again) my
perspective (who else's?).
If I have a major frustration with the site it's as
a customer, the limited or absent disclosure
about what you are getting for your $10, $11,
$12 or $15 is very frustrating. I can't stand
CD-R or computer burned CDs with their
cheapola graphics. There are tons of very fine
CDs with professional packaging on the site,
but do you think you can tell the difference by
visiting the cookie cutter pages here?
Nooooo.... And, I know, as a
know-it-all-musician who probably doesn't buy
CDs you probably would like to point out about
the 14-day return policy, but I have to eat the
frigging shipping every time I get a damn
CD-R.
"I've noticed that your posts in other threads
seem to be as disparaging and spiteful as in
this one."
They are not spiteful, they offer another
viewpoint. If you think anyone who disagrees
with your view is spiteful - hang on for a crappy
life - it's coming your way.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
"hello" - which CD-Rs have you gotten so upset about? I'm asking this sincerely. I've never heard of a problem with them before. Please let me know.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
I don't like any of them Derek, they aren't worth
a crap to me. If I could see on the page
whether the CD was a real, manufactured CD
from Discmakers, Oasis or better, or one of
those cheap CD-R or DAM CDs I would never
buy a CD-R or DAM CD, there's just too many
quality CDs that were properly manufactered
that I could get - the CD-R's remind me of
once-offs and demo-ware (to steal a computer
term). The problem with the site is ONE JUST
DOESN't KNOW until it arrives in the mail - too
late. That is just not customer friendly.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
I forgot to mention one thing too. This is of
lessor importance but means something. If
the artist is willing to stand behind and raise
the money for, then publicize, promote and
work behind a CD they manufactured 300, 500
or 1000 copies for, then that means
something, it's another sign of commitment to
their art, and I for one would rather support a
committed artist than one whose just 'testing' -
I can't support them all, I just would like to
know what I'm getting and what kind of
recording artist I am supporting....
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
That reminds me of a tune, You Say Yes, I Say
No, You Say Stop, I Say Go Go Go
Uh oh, some copyright has just been violated I
feel....
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
"You say why,
and I say I don't know...
OH NO!"
-Beatles
Goodbye can't talk right now. He's busy eating doughnuts. At the beep, please leave a message. beeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep!
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Galaris is getting ready for a new look. We cater to Independent musicians. Sell your cd, read the classified adds, or just come check it out.
http://www.galaris.com/independent
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
wats your problem with CD-Rs. They work just as well as properley manufactured ones and perhaps not all artists can rasie the money to make a thousand copies of their CD.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
CD-Rs are, to quote that line from "The
Commitments", they're shite.
They are not just as good as properly
manufactured ones, don't kid yourself, anyway,
if people want to waste their money buying
them fine, what I'm saying is I don't want any of
the buggers. I think the customer has the right
to disclosure, to knowing exactly what they are
getting for $10, $11,$15 whatever. A CD-R is
worth about $2, but since none sell for that
low, there is no way to know which are which.
" perhaps not all artists can rasie the money to
make a thousand copies of their CD. "
What can I say, when you can, you should,
CD-Rs are crap.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
I agree with this. I think Gajoob does a good
job of it. How common are CD-Rs here
though? I didn't know there were any.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
David, there are a good number of CD-Rs
here. I've just gotten some - surprise! - and
was pretty pissed - I want to know which
artists have gone the extra mile to get proper
duplication. They know here at the site, they
just won't tell us. If you could pick up and look
at the CD (like in a cool record store, which is
mentioned on this site plenty of times as the
offline analogy), you could avoid the buggers.
Short of that, you need to be notified.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Ok if it will make you happy, I had mine replicated through Oasis. It even has a barcode, and is shrinkwrapped. Good enough for you? Buy this one! Based on your comments, it's probably gonna be too mellow for you, but what the hell you wanted quality manufacturing and packaging!
Dereck's idea has allowed all musicians to allow you to have access to their music. Thats big!
If that's not good enough then start one yourself.
Like the man said, it ain't easy. James Owen
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
James, it might help if you pay attention to the
thread. We were talking about disclosure. In
short, does or does not a customer have the
right, pre-purchase, to know whether they are
buying a manufactured CD (Oasis, Disc
Makers or better) or a computer-burned,
home-made, laser-printed-on-cheap paper,
blue-backed CD-R? If I get a CD from Tower,
Best Buy or CD Now, I don't have to know, they
are all manufactured. Why is it a big secret on
this site? Stick to the thread man.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Hello, I understand what your saynig. You have the right to know, if you dislike CD-R's for one reason or another, then that is your problem.
But not all CD-R's come with cheap graphics, I have seen some that look just as good as Glass-Mastered CD's
Are those cheap graphics really all that bugs you? Or do you have a T-Rex Cd Player that won't play 'em?
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
"You have the right to know, if you dislike
CD-R's for one reason or another, then that is
your problem. "
No, it is not my problem, it my concern and my
beef -- it is this site's problem. Your smart
ass response about the graphics and my CD
player only confirms what I suspect: that a lot
of musicians have trouble putting themselves
in the position of the consumer - you'd prefer
creating a lesser product (CD-R, hand-made
graphics) for your own convenience, rather
than provide a standard product that the
consumer is knowledgable about and is
comfortable with. How many indie CD-Rs
have you purchased over the past year, Tsgili
Waya? How many indie CDs total? How
many non-indie CDs?
For this site to go to the next level, someone
has to start putting themselves in the shoes of
the consumer, who, last time I checked (and
with all due respect), pays ALL THE BILLS
AROUND HERE. Just like every other
business. But where a lot of business start to
lose it is when they put other things first,
ahead of the consumers concerns and
issues.
A musician-friendly site is wonderful, about
time too, but....
Any business that puts shareholders,
employees, executives, owners, vendors (in
this case, the artists), receivables,
debtholders or any other party ahead of the
customer is only one thing in the long run - out
of business.
I repeat my concern for clarity one more time:
There are more than 15,000 SKUs on this
site, only the people who run the site know
which ones are CD-Rs and which ones aren't,
which ones are CD-Rs being charged like a
manufactured CD - All I'm saying - how's
about sharing that with Joe Customer?
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
I for one, was not aware that any customers made a disctinction between CDRs and mastered glass, except for, perhaps, calssical music. For my blues, you aren't gonna get high fidelity (cause it is just guitar, vocal and harp --narrow band of frequencies there) no matter what you do.
CDRs let musicians do the equivalent of "print on demand" publishing, which I consider viable. I stand behind my work, but I haven't the space to inventory 1,000 CDs (the minimum it is practical to order manufactured). Print on demand books are not labeled as such, even on Amazon.com (go ahead, ask me how I know--I been at this a LONG time) although the physical quality is certainly different (not worse) than mass produced books.
I disagree that a CDR is worth $2, as the physical medium, produced, printed on, wrapped and ready to go, costs me at least that much, and I think I deserve something for the music. The package is not the point anyway, unless you are just a pure consumer, acquiring for acquisition. It is a means to deliver music. And as I said, no one has gotten my CD has complained--well, at least not about it being a CDR.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Sorry, I forgot one:
"I stand behind my work"
Then you would have no problem if a
customer visiting your page on this site saw
the phrase "This is a CD-R release"... It is
what it is. Let the marketplace determine the
value.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Man, resposes such as that from Ed Teja, I
hope don't reflect the average musician on the
site - you couldn't all be this arrogant - jeez
louise!
"I for one, was not aware that any customers
made a disctinction between CDRs and
mastered glass"
Consider yourself aware now. The lack of a
customer Forum on this site would make real
feedback difficult.
"CDRs let musicians do the equivalent of
"print on demand" publishing, which I
consider viable."
You might consider it viable, I don't - I don't
want 'em, don't need 'em, there are thousands
and throusands of regular CDs on this site to
pick from (at least a hundred times available
cash to spend) so tell me which are which
and let me (the customer) decide. When you
are doing the buying, YOU decide.
"but I haven't the space to inventory 1,000
CDs"
And I have to pay the price for that?!?
"1,000 CDs (the minimum it is practical to
order manufactured)"
Now that's just bull chips. Go to Discmakers
and they have nice 300 CD packages, two of
my acquantences at work have had those
made.
"Print on demand books are not labeled as
such, even on Amazon.com"
If that were true I, and I got one, I'd return it and
cease shopping there and go back to Borders,
where I can see and touch what I'm paying for,
and the coffee is better too.
"I disagree that a CDR is worth $2, as the
physical medium, produced, printed on,
wrapped and ready to go, costs me at least
that much, and I think I deserve something for
the music."
You can set the value at whatever you want
provided you are paying for it. I set the value to
me at less than $2, and even then I'd just give
it a few listens, toss it and wait for the full
length.
"no one has gotten my CD has
complained--well, at least not about it being a
CDR"
Just be honest about what it is upfront, and
you won't get any complaints now or in the
future.
"The package is not the point anyway"
I disagree, the artists who take the extra time
to put together a quality product should get
extra attention. Let's say out of 15,000 artists
on this site that 12,000 have regular CDs and
3,000 are pushing CD-Rs as CDs, I'd focus
on the 12,000 with regular CDs, amd even
then there's no way I could even begin to
sample (much less buy) that much music -
you fail to take into account the amount of
product out there.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
I for one appreciate hello's comments. It didn't occur to me to make it clear that our officially released CD is pressed, not burned. It does make sense.
We'll be releasing some demos, which will probably be burned. It likewise makes sense to include the datum there. That would help us get across the point that these demos are for people wanting to hear the -songs-, not the people looking for a finished listening experience.
Cheers,
Mark
Iguanodon Smile
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
I don't know, but I would guess that other
artists who've spent the extra money to get
their CDs manufactured would want that fact
known, if for no other reason than to have one
more distinguishing factor for their product - a
way to make your product stand out. I can
speak better from the consumer standpoint --
it's not right that I don't really know what I am
getting.
|
|
|
|
|
|
